 Raspberry Pi!
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18 May 16 12:43 PM
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For what it's worth, I've just ported A-Shell 6.3 to the Raspberry Pi ... .ver
-- A-Shell Version 6.3.1513.1 Up and Running --
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Linux raspberrypi 4.1.18-v7+ #846 SMP Thu Feb 25 14:22:53 GMT 2016 armv7l GNU/Linux![[Linked Image]](http://www.microsabio.net/ForumImages/raspberry.png) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.microsabio.net/ForumImages/raspberry2.png) We're not sure yet if there is any market for a $35 Linux server (including Ethernet, WiFi, HDMI, and USB outputs and 1GB RAM) that fits in the palm of your hand and runs A-Shell, but it certainly is interesting. There's even a smaller/cheaper version called the Zero which costs $5, but without all the interface connectors. Like the Arduino , the Raspberry Pi has a general purpose I/O connector intended to support all kinds of analog/digital attachments, ideal for creating special purpose servers dedicated to monitoring or controlling real world objects (sensors, gauges, lights, cameras, doors, gates, motors, machines, employees, etc.) and yet remaining accessible via Ethernet. If you've been looking for a way to get into the exciting world of the Internet of Things, this may be your ticket.
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Re: Raspberry Pi!
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18 May 16 07:39 PM
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Steve - Caliq
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You have been reading Dominic and my mind!
We have been thinking about this on and off for a while, ok no actual need for one, but was more for fun and curiosity and have been tempted to buy one to try.
Just think everyone can bring their own UNIX server to the Ashell Conference!
It be easier than explaining and draging an Alpha micro AM1040 across airport customs. (and im sure zillion times faster)
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Re: Raspberry Pi!
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18 May 16 10:58 PM
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This is very interesting and I'm excited to think about possibilities for real usage. It's curious that, this week, I was talking with a customer about the virtues of A-Shell because, they have A-Shell software and other software based on SQL, they had a crash on their server and, until now, they are trying to recover corrupted data in the SQL and reinstall SQL itself was a pain. Besides the A-Shell partition was not affected, we were comparing scenarios and realized that he could have the A-Shell package running in a USB pen drive, take it everywhere, plug it to any computer and use it normally 
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Re: Raspberry Pi!
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19 May 16 03:07 AM
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Steve - Caliq
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Jorge I have the complete Madics and source and APN on a USB 3 stick (bitlockered) and I work solely from this when working from home, its attached to my keyring so I dont forget to Sync with our main server when I leave the office.  - Its plenty fast enough, Im tempted to defect to a Raspberry Pi (but thats bit big to have on my keyring!)
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Re: Raspberry Pi!
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19 May 16 06:03 AM
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Not so fast Jack - When Trump becomes president hes going to ban all imports from the UK!  Maybe we should stock up! Either way thanks for the post, interesting possibilities...
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Re: Raspberry Pi!
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19 May 16 12:22 PM
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The benchmark isn't fantastic but not horrible - quite a bit slower for pure CPU activity, but nearly the same for file i/o as Windows and Linux. (And in nearly matches your AIX machine overall, although it is still much slower in the CPU area, but faster for the I/O). Here I show the Pi results vs my i7-5600U 2.6GHz SSD laptop running Windows 10 natively and Linux 6 in a VMware instance (plus your last RSIV ESERVER results)... Pi Win10 Linux 6 RSIV
TEST 1 - Create a 500,000 line sequential file COMPLETED IN i 00:00:06 00:00:02 00:00:00 00:00:04
TEST 2 - Read in the 500,000 line sequential file COMPLETED IN i 00:00:02 00:00:00 00:00:00 00:00:01
TEST 3 - XCALL BASORT the 500,000 line sequential file COMPLETED IN i 00:00:05 00:00:02 00:00:01 00:00:06
TEST 4 - Erase the 500,000 line sequential file COMPLETED IN i 00:00:01 00:00:00 00:00:00 00:00:00
TEST 5 - Perform a 1 to 25 Million FOR/NEXT loop COMPLETED IN i 00:00:53 00:00:03 00:00:02 00:00:11
TEST 6 - Perform math computations 1 million times COMPLETED IN i 00:00:14 00:00:01 00:00:01 00:00:11
TEST 7 - Allocate 2500 single block random files COMPLETED IN i 00:00:00 00:00:00 00:00:00 00:00:18
TEST 8 - Open 500 random files with file locking COMPLETED IN i 00:00:00 00:00:01 00:00:00 00:00:00
TEST 9 - Open and close random files 20,000 times COMPLETED IN i 00:00:02 00:00:01 00:00:00 00:00:02
TEST 10- Lock/read/release 10000 records from 5 files COMPLETED IN i 00:00:17 00:01:16 00:00:01 00:00:23
TEST 11- Read 10,000 records from 200 files (no file locCOMPLETED IN i 00:00:44 00:00:05 00:00:03 00:00:49
TEST 12- Close/del 500 random files, rel file locks COMPLETED IN i 00:00:00 00:00:01 00:00:00 00:00:03
BENCHMARK TEST COMPLETE - PROGRAM RUN TIME WAS 00:02:24 00:01:32 00:00:08 00:02:08 Interestingly the Windows machine is oddly slow at the Lock/read/release test. The Pi probably isn't a particularly good replacement for the thumb drive approach for running/developing your entire application, assuming you carry a laptop, since A-Shell runs faster on the laptop than on the Pi. But the laptop costs $1000+ while the Pi costs about $50. Plus the Pi draws only about 4W, requires no cooling fan, and is a lot more rugged, so would be far superior to the laptop in applications requiring a dedicated machine in remote or field location.
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Re: Raspberry Pi!
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19 May 16 06:57 PM
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Steve - Caliq
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The good old BENCH always comes up with interesting results, but not surprising. Good to see how time moves forward and now a Pi is nearly as fast as a several year old RS, and Linux as usual makes light work of it. We have always found file locking MUCH slower on Windows and why we recommend Linux even for a smaller system installation. Anyway always good have Pi as another option..
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Re: Raspberry Pi!
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21 Jul 16 01:10 AM
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OmniLedger - Tom Reynolds
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I've been terrible when it comes to posting on the forum, but I've been tinkering with the Raspberry Pi after getting Jack into letting me play with the A-Shell port. Thought people might be interested in what I discover.
I got a basic setup going in a few hours, with the Pi running headless over WiFi, as a web server for our newer browser-based software. They use Bootstrap, JQuery and AShell to build some much cleaner and more modern front-ends. It all ran pretty smoothly, and was pretty impressive for a £30 piece of hardware.
I'm going to be allocating some of my time into tinkering with it, and seeing what ideas I can come up with for more practical uses. At the very least, something about the ability to hold our entire product range in your hand really appeals to me!
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Re: Raspberry Pi!
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21 Jul 16 02:29 AM
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Steve - Caliq
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Neat!
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Re: Raspberry Pi!
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24 Jul 16 06:49 PM
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Steve - Caliq
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With that Ty you could have Ashell running in Schools across the World...
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Re: Raspberry Pi!
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24 Jul 16 10:47 PM
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OmniLedger - Tom Reynolds
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Much appreciated Ty, that should help me try a few things out.
I actually got a test system up and running on a Pi Zero over the weekend. The browser based options actually ran pretty well. Again, not bad for a £4 piece of hardware!
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Re: Raspberry Pi!
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28 Feb 17 02:29 AM
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OmniLedger - Tom Reynolds
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I've obviously ordered a new Pi Zero W to play around with.
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Re: Raspberry Pi!
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28 Feb 17 05:22 AM
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Wow you beat me to it. (But you did get an 8 hour timezone headstart!) I was going to offer to split the cost with you, but I guess if we tighten our belts, maybe we can both afford our own!  ![[Linked Image]](http://www.microsabio.net/ForumImages/pizerow.png) Pi Zero W
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Re: Raspberry Pi!
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15 Apr 17 06:19 AM
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Interesting! I have installed it on my Pi. It's asking for a company name. The LICENS program fails with my company, no company name entered and MicroSabio. Running in demo mode. Any thoughts?
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Re: Raspberry Pi!
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16 Jun 17 11:47 AM
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For what its worth: I purchased an original C.H.I.P. $9.00 single board computer from nextthing.co last year. It has an embedded linux based OS on board. Not as capable as the Raspberry PI 3 but very cheap. It has a single USB 2 port, audio, wifi and bluetooth. I was able to install the Raspberry PI version of AShell and compile a simple program. The original C.H.I.P. is no longer available but they have some other products and a C.H.I.P. V2 is on the way according to their web site. I added an HDMI interface board, a 5v power pack and a powered 4 port USB hub so the real cost is closer to the PI 3. I'm using an old 22" TV as a monitor and a logitech usb keyboard/mouse. These small, inexpensive devices are becoming popular and more are on their way.
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